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 Post subject: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:07 pm 
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How does a person go from 4th to 1st before the first turn and it be a legitimate start!


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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 12:36 am 
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I assume you mean Saldana? I thought the same thing, if it were a local I'm sure it would've been ruled a false start..

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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:32 am 
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How does Shatz finish fifth in his heat and run the dash??


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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:08 am 
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Because Saldana jumped from 4-1 in half a straight away. Same way Pittman didn't pass a single car all night long and still win.

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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:14 am 
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How does Shatz finish fifth in his heat and run the dash??


Because Saldana, who was already had a dash spot secured, won his heat race so the #5 fastest time got bumped up into the dash.

That was yet another unfortunate result to Saldana's ridiculous start being allowed to stand. Just horrible for Lance and Krimes who would've had a tremendous shot at a dash position. When the WoO is in town, the calls are suspect at best. And that's as proper as I can say it.

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Eldora - 1
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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:12 am 
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Many thanks to our posse drivers who always put up a great fight despite the perceived favoritism of the outlaw organization. You guys ALWAYS make PA fans proud!

And kudos to Daryn Pittman for giving recognition to the posse. At Daryn's lowest point, he came to PA, we took him in, and he was able to get back on his feet again. I think there will always be a little bit of posse in Daryn's blood after spending 4 years here. I hope he wins another championship with the circus.


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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:28 pm 
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I am sorry friends but I am so sick of the outlaws right now. I am listening to dirtvision for the race in NY, and Steve Buckwalter was on the pole of heat 2. He gets the lead and immediately the yellow is thrown for Buckwalter jumping. According to Gibson, "outlaw officials felt that Buckwalter jumped the start." He's on the pole! I am believing that the outlaw officials are not even trying to hide it anymore. How do you throw the yellow on guy on the pole, but not throw with a guy going from 4th to 1st before hitting the start-finish line on the night before. UNBELIEVABLE!


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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:33 pm 
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Is it rigged? Maybe...

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Lincoln = 1845 ft. = .35 mile T3=124 MPH
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Grove = 2792 ft. = .53 mile T3=135 MPH
Selinsgrove = 2847 ft. = .54 mile T1=136 MPH

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Grove: 25 / Lincoln: 13 / Port: 2 / Susky: 4 / Selinsgrove: 2 / Eldora: 2 / Lima: 1


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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:16 pm 
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possefan wrote:
I am sorry friends but I am so sick of the outlaws right now. I am listening to dirtvision for the race in NY, and Steve Buckwalter was on the pole of heat 2. He gets the lead and immediately the yellow is thrown for Buckwalter jumping. According to Gibson, "outlaw officials felt that Buckwalter jumped the start." He's on the pole! I am believing that the outlaw officials are not even trying to hide it anymore. How do you throw the yellow on guy on the pole, but not throw with a guy going from 4th to 1st before hitting the start-finish line on the night before. UNBELIEVABLE!


I did not see it nor did I hear it, but yes, the pole sitter can be called for "jumping" the initial start. On initial starts, they put a chalk line in turn 4 and the race director reminds the front row over the radio to be side by side to the line. Both front row starters are to reach the chalk line together then go.

On double file restarts, it's different. On double file restarts, the leader (whether he chooses the inside or outside) controls the start. Once the leader goes on restarts, then the entire field can go.

It also happened this season at Port Royal during the All Star race. They penalized the pole sitter on the initial start and put him back a row.


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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:17 pm 
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The other night at lincoln i saw the guy on the fourwheeler stay connected to the outlaw cars on the scales and all the pa cars he backed off, not sure if that makes much of a difference but the other guy wouldnt pay attention to weight of the outlaws but would look at the weight of the pa cars and sometimes looking at the weight of the pa cars twice

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Suquehanna-2
Hagerstown-1
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Action Track USA-2
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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:31 am 
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I'll say it again, I hate the outlaw officials and I, for one, wish they would never come here. We have our own spectacular racing around here (most of the time:), we have top notch facilities and the most passionate fans around. All we need, we already have. Just run some more higher paying shows for the locals.


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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:00 am 
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Agreed, I would be okay if they didn't ever come back. Our racing is good enough for me around here, jut add some more higher paying shows. Everyone says that PA needs the outlaws more than the outlaws need PA, but I find that hard to believe. Especially after last nights showing at OCFS. If not for pa cars, they have 15 total cars.

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Lincoln:5
Port:6
Path Valley: 1
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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:00 am 
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I'll say it again, I hate the outlaw officials and I, for one, wish they would never come here. We have our own spectacular racing around here (most of the time:), we have top notch facilities and the most passionate fans around. All we need, we already have. Just run some more higher paying shows for the locals.


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 Post subject: Re: HOW!!
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From my vantage point Saldana did not jump the start.

Why do people always run down the WoO when they destroy the PA cars and then turn the tables when PA cars are the winners? I like watching the best of the best come in and see how the locals stack up. Racing is a tough business and little incidents throughout the night can make or break the evening. I really doubt it is even possible to "rig" as race.

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Port Royal 19
Williams Grove 19
Lincoln. 4
Trailway 1
Path Valley 1
Grandveiw 1
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