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NASCAR double standards

Post by Scott Harro » Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:46 pm

If RG's penalty is not overturned on his appeal he's taking more of a screwing each week. today i heard that the part # on the nose he first had on is the same part# of the old nose. they are the exact same profile except for the decals. Nascar says the letter of the law is what is enforced and it's not up to them to determine intent. a violation is a violation. in todays race a tire gets away on pit road from the 99 car. a clear violation of the rule. yes i know it wasn't the teams fault as a camerman prevented the crew member from moving to left to catch the tire. my answer to that....if the tire carrier had rolled the tire straight the catcher wouldn't have had to move to the left and the tire got away......letter of the law. How does nascar know that the guy would have caught the tire anyway. maybe he's an ex nfl lineman. seems to me they are determining intent with the 99. Nascar says the letter is the letter for RG but goes with the SPIRIT of the rule for the 99 car. also there were Some inspection problems before qualifying and it doesn't sound like penalties are coming...they just got to fix them. The Cup cars of #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr., #48-Jimmie Johnson and #17-Matt Kenseth were forced to go through the inspection line twice after NASCAR officials found minor violations on their cars. NASCAR officials said the problems were not serious, but the crews of the #88 Chevy, the #48 Chevy and the #17 Ford were told to correct the problems and go back through the line. All three cars were on the track for the first practice session. where's vince mcmahon when you need him?
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Post by Bill Mc » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:00 pm

sprint1 give it a break. what happened was wrong. :roll:
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Re: NASCAR double standards

Post by Scott Harro » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:06 pm

to gordon or edwards?
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Post by Brent Leach » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:10 pm

I think that Robbie Gordon will win this appeal .
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Post by 410zbaby » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:36 am

Brent Leach wrote:I think that Robbie Gordon will win this appeal .
I sure hope you're right, Brent. The whole team is getting hosed if NAPCAR upholds the penalty! It wouldn't surprise me though if the so called infraction is upheld because it's Robbie Gordon. :rednono:

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Post by supertc88 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:48 am

410zbaby wrote:
Brent Leach wrote:I think that Robbie Gordon will win this appeal .
I sure hope you're right, Brent. The whole team is getting hosed if NAPCAR upholds the penalty! It wouldn't surprise me though if the so called infraction is upheld because it's Robbie Gordon. :rednono:
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Re: NASCAR double standards

Post by GOSHOW » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:45 am

I agree with Brent and also think the violation should be overturned.
Sure seems like the past few years the Hendrick cars are in violation over, and over, and over.

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Re: NASCAR double standards

Post by Scott Harro » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:30 pm

i normally despise all these fancy smiley thingys but

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UPDATE 2: On March 5, 2008, the National Stock Car Racing Commission heard and considered the appeal of Robby Gordon Motorsports regarding the #7 car. The appeal concerned three penalties issued by NASCAR following opening day inspection on February 8, 2008 for the Sprint Cup Series event at Daytona International Speedway. The infractions concerned Section 12-4-A of the NASCAR Rule Book “Actions detrimental to stock car racing”; Section 12-4-Q “Any determination by NASCAR Officials that the car, car parts, components, and/or equipment used in the Event do not conform to NASCAR rules” and Section 20-3.1-A: “Unapproved front bumper cover.”
The penalties assessed were:
* Loss of 100 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Car Owner Points for car owner Robby Gordon.
* Loss of 100 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Driver Points for driver Robby Gordon.
* $100,000.00 fine; suspension from NASCAR for the next six (6) NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship Events; suspension from NASCAR until April 9, 2008, and probation until December 31, 2008 for crew chief, Frank Kerr.
The Appellants argued that the bumper cover was installed as delivered from the manufacturer, that it did not provide a competition advantage since it was discovered prior to being allowed on the racetrack, and that the bumper met the templates. The Appellants also argued against the severity of the penalties. In deliberating, the Commission considered several factors. The bumper cover constituted an obvious rules infraction and the Appellants did not contest the legality of the part. The Commission notes and reaffirms the following fundamental principal which is vital to maintaining the integrity of the sport: Regardless of the source of an unapproved part on a racecar, the race team that officially enters the car in a NASCAR race is ultimately accountable for that racecar’s conformance, or non-conformance, to the rules. However, the Commission believes that the facts presented during the hearing represented an extraordinary and unusual set of circumstances. While this does not excuse the infraction, the National Stock Car Racing Commission has decided to reinstate the car owner and driver championship points, lift the suspension, and increase the fine. For the crew chief, Frank Kerr, the penalty is increased to $150,000 and he remains on probation through Dec. 31, 2008. The Appellants have the right under Section 15 of the Rule Book to appeal this decision to the National Stock Car Racing Commissioner.(NASCAR PR)(3-5-2008) Comment here
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Re: NASCAR double standards

Post by scca2k » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:57 pm

I just dont understand how the points can be given back, but the fine increased......i guess thats just Na$Greed for ya

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Re: NASCAR double standards

Post by Scott Harro » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:03 pm

guess they're saying there was no intent and it didn't give them an advantage BUT somebody better check things better. it's been done before
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Re: NASCAR double standards

Post by Brent Leach » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:13 pm

Frankie won't have to pay anything out of his own pocket , so NASCAR will just be getting more cash to play with . I'm pretty sure the fine willbe paid by Dodge . At least that was what I was told .
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Re: NASCAR double standards

Post by Brent Leach » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:18 pm

Not to argue , but I think that was started last season.
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