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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:28 pm 
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Good for Port. I haven't been there since they stopped putting the Super Sportsmen on their schedule, and it's almost 3hrs each way from home.
Here's a free idea for Williams Grove, since it is their site we are on. Use this tool you have in your message board to ask for help in promoting your product. For example, Make up some of those old fashion posters events used to be promoted with and have any board member that had an appropriate location to hang them. I have a Store front that has a few hundred people through every weekend, about 2 hrs away. Most people that are into racing around here, have no clue the awesome racing going on in Central Pa.
Also I think the track should take a survey for their patrons to see just how far some of them really come from. It could be as simple as asking for a zip code.
I want to see these tracks thrive, If the butts are in the stands better things will happen on there own, ie more sponsorship money, teams, prize money, money for track prep. and continued racing into the future.

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:04 am 
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I don't recall ever asking for "everything for nothing." Seeing as how I always pay adult admission prices. And I used to come to the races in large groups with plenty of kids from the area. Plenty of kids commute to the campus and go home every weekend, its not a boarding school. Kids that stay there all summer (a very large amount of the kids do) don't have much to do because there is no sports, there is nothing on campus besides class. So if you stay up there because of housing arrangements and aren't taking classes, then theres no school work. I guess you have to be a student in college in this day and age to understand that its difficult to continue to visit somewhere you love when having to pay big prices, and big tuitions. Glad there is another PSU student who sees it from the same POV as me.

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:10 am 
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Thank you for all the opinion/facts/comments. Students are at Penn State all year around. Im still here and will be until graduated. Have to drive right past Port Royal to get home, but due to the fact I have to pay outrageous price, I do not even bother. Last weekend for example, although it had gotten rained out, I drove right past the track to get home, and didn't even consider stopping. And for the statement someone made about "If youre old enough to buy beer, you can buy an adult ticket" Tell that to the military men and women who are only 19-20, who cant buy beer but can sacrifice their life so you have a track to go to every week. And as for valid ID, they can check the years on there, and maybe say maximum of 5 years on the card. I know with my PSU id, it says 2010, and although I am not graduating on time, say maybe do the math and don't consider a student after 2014/2015



Did you really just try an compare serving and protecting the United States of America to getting into a dirt track for a discounted price???

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:36 am 
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I know more about the way things work at Penn State than you might think. I know there are some students there year around and some have transportation but the odds of getting many to make a 120 mile round trip to Port Royal are slim. I am pretty sure Ports student pricing is done more with the family in mind more than the students themselves. As with any business promotions and advertising are done to promote the future of any business. I can see getting a few with what you guys a talking about but not a significant number. It may be hard for you to believe but their are people worse off than college students. Businesses can"t
help everyone with a problem especially one as temporary as going to school. Unless you are getting a Liberal Arts degree in nothing because the classes are easy it will pay off later in your life. Think of it as a small sacrifice for your future.


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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:01 am 
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A small $100,000 sacrifice... Listen, it wouldn't cost Port a dime to offer a reduced admission for one race. Even if they only gain 5 extra students that day, at $5 a piece, that's an extra $25 they didn't have. Now let's say 3 of those kids make a return visit at $15 (whatever weekly admission is) now your profit just went to a total of $70. Might not be enough to run a speedway, but when people in seats are decreasing, every little bit helps. Plus, just the word of mouth would help their cause. Johnny says to sam, "man I had a great time at the races Saturday, you should go some time" etc etc.

If port can afford to run a race with free general admission, I think they can afford a "college night".


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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:37 am 
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bmd5229 wrote:
Thank you for all the opinion/facts/comments. Students are at Penn State all year around. Im still here and will be until graduated. Have to drive right past Port Royal to get home, but due to the fact I have to pay outrageous price, I do not even bother. Last weekend for example, although it had gotten rained out, I drove right past the track to get home, and didn't even consider stopping. And for the statement someone made about "If youre old enough to buy beer, you can buy an adult ticket" Tell that to the military men and women who are only 19-20, who cant buy beer but can sacrifice their life so you have a track to go to every week. And as for valid ID, they can check the years on there, and maybe say maximum of 5 years on the card. I know with my PSU id, it says 2010, and although I am not graduating on time, say maybe do the math and don't consider a student after 2014/2015



Did you really just try an compare serving and protecting the United States of America to getting into a dirt track for a discounted price???


And if that's the case and you really want a discounted price to the races, go right ahead and enlist and you can get in for FREE this weekend...

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
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So there is your night all college students get in free on June 14. Us regular fans paid the purse for everyone else to get in free on that night.


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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:58 am 
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A small $100,000 sacrifice... Listen, it wouldn't cost Port a dime to offer a reduced admission for one race. Even if they only gain 5 extra students that day, at $5 a piece, that's an extra $25 they didn't have. Now let's say 3 of those kids make a return visit at $15 (whatever weekly admission is) now your profit just went to a total of $70. Might not be enough to run a speedway, but when people in seats are decreasing, every little bit helps. Plus, just the word of mouth would help their cause. Johnny says to sam, "man I had a great time at the races Saturday, you should go some time" etc etc.

If port can afford to run a race with free general admission, I think they can afford a "college night".


Port Royal can not afford to run a race with "free general admission". Like the other poster just said, the night of June 14th was already paid for by ticket sales from two previous weeks where fans didn't get to see the A-Mains. So instead of making fans pay for three more weeks of racing in order to to see all the makeup events they missed, they are putting them together in one night as a courtesy to the fans, and if anyone wasn't at those two races, then yes, they get a freebie, including college students, so put an announcement on the Penn State website, and every other college in Pennsylvania.

Student prices should end with High School. College students are adults. (IMO)


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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:07 am 
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Season ticket holders are taking a loss in this deal. But to me that doesn't really matter.

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:51 am 
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taurus014 wrote:
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A small $100,000 sacrifice... Listen, it wouldn't cost Port a dime to offer a reduced admission for one race. Even if they only gain 5 extra students that day, at $5 a piece, that's an extra $25 they didn't have. Now let's say 3 of those kids make a return visit at $15 (whatever weekly admission is) now your profit just went to a total of $70. Might not be enough to run a speedway, but when people in seats are decreasing, every little bit helps. Plus, just the word of mouth would help their cause. Johnny says to sam, "man I had a great time at the races Saturday, you should go some time" etc etc.

If port can afford to run a race with free general admission, I think they can afford a "college night".


Port Royal can not afford to run a race with "free general admission". Like the other poster just said, the night of June 14th was already paid for by ticket sales from two previous weeks where fans didn't get to see the A-Mains. So instead of making fans pay for three more weeks of racing in order to to see all the makeup events they missed, they are putting them together in one night as a courtesy to the fans, and if anyone wasn't at those two races, then yes, they get a freebie, including college students, so put an announcement on the Penn State website, and every other college in Pennsylvania.

Student prices should end with High School. College students are adults. (IMO)



I totally agree. Over 18 get a part time job to fund your passions. I have college aged kids and yes they do attend but I don't help them. It is better if they do it on their own. I think it is the generation what can I get for nothing or as little as possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:26 pm 
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Everyone is missing the fact that we as students do pay the adult admission, I'm not saying let us in for free, but like he said "college night" or something. I was just always wondering about the student prices. I don't try getting everything I can for nothing. We were just throwing suggestions and I wanted to hear opinions.

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:31 pm 
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Things is going great Mom...Send more money... :naughty:

Since I think I coined the phrase "Speed Palace" during one of my friendly Lincoln battles years ago on here.....I want a free admission for one night.... :cheers2:...Ooops...I guess June 14th will suffice..I am into it for 35 bucks for June 14th..

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Williams Grove - 16.1 seconds = 173' per second = 117 MPH
Lincoln - 12.7 seconds = 145.2' per second = 99 MPH

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:37 pm 
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Age 18 you're an adult. I can understand that college is expensive for those that have to pay for it themselves but the track can't give away the farm. Do college students get discounts at other forms of entertainment? Movie tickets? Concert tickets? Professional sporting events? Seems to me that $15 is not that big a price compared to going to a concert, pro-sporting event or even the movies these days. I think a college night might not be a bad idea. Dirt track racing needs more young fans.

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:31 pm 
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:thinking3: Bet they dont get discounts at Beaver stadium either. Hell come to think of it not one has a senior discount Except Susky and The Grove for the last 3 or 4 weeks of the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Student Pricing
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:04 pm 
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This is actually a good topic to discuss.

I like the idea of family pricing and student up to 17 years of age and senior citizen pricing. Tracks do need to do more to get new blood in or the sport will die. I just don't think college age students need it. Like was said before do they get student pricing at concerts? I doubt it. Concerts cost more than racing but they find money for them.

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