7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Discuss old school racing
Post Reply
sramoa
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:14 am
Location: Dorog,Hungary
Contact:

7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by sramoa » Mon May 07, 2012 3:21 pm

Hi all!

Somebody have got any info who were entries this big car event and what was the results?

Thanks any info

User avatar
BLT 777
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 227
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:52 pm
Location: Westminster, MD

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by BLT 777 » Mon May 07, 2012 5:44 pm

Johnny Shackleford from Dayton, OH won the main in the Ted Nyquist/Riverside Tires #6 sprinter. Top 5 was Shackleford, Lee Wallard, Elbert Booker, Danny Goss, and Emil Andres. The main was flagged after 26 of the scheduled 30 laps due to a wreck between Billy DeVore & Joe Verebly. Shackleford was also fast qualifier @ 27.47 seconds.

Most of the top dogs in the east were racing at Lakewood Fairgrounds (GA) that day.
Last edited by BLT 777 on Mon May 07, 2012 5:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Ben Turner - EMMR Librarian/Historian

2014 Race Counter:
(as of 11/30)
Oval
9 - Lincoln
7 - Williams Grove
3 - Indy (IMS), Kokomo, Port Royal
2 - Susky
1 - Hagerstown, Trail-Way, Selinsgrove, Mercer
1 - Duck River (TN), Boyds (GA), Bridgeport
1 - Lawrenceburg, Knoxville, Path Valley, Cleveland (TN)
Drag Racing
1 - Beaver Springs
Misc
1 - Harrisburg Farm Show Complex

http://www.twitter.com/blt77

User avatar
Scott Harro
Head Wrench
Head Wrench
Posts: 1989
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:03 am

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by Scott Harro » Mon May 07, 2012 5:45 pm

not exactly what you asked for but it might help fill in some drivers names IF i can find the dang thing. i have heat lineups from the 7/20/46 big car race from SG. will post when i dig it up.
My OPINIONS are just that and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of anyone or any track I am associated with!

sramoa
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:14 am
Location: Dorog,Hungary
Contact:

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by sramoa » Thu May 10, 2012 4:26 pm

Scott Harro wrote:not exactly what you asked for but it might help fill in some drivers names IF i can find the dang thing. i have heat lineups from the 7/20/46 big car race from SG. will post when i dig it up.

Thank your replies!Interesting for me that event lineups too!(Selinsgrove 7/20/46)

sramoa
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:14 am
Location: Dorog,Hungary
Contact:

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by sramoa » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:17 pm

Scott Harro wrote:not exactly what you asked for but it might help fill in some drivers names IF i can find the dang thing. i have heat lineups from the 7/20/46 big car race from SG. will post when i dig it up.
If you have additional information would you could share with me?

User avatar
Scott Harro
Head Wrench
Head Wrench
Posts: 1989
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:03 am

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by Scott Harro » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:21 pm

sorry, long ago forgot about this. i'll take a look tonite.
My OPINIONS are just that and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of anyone or any track I am associated with!

User avatar
Scott Harro
Head Wrench
Head Wrench
Posts: 1989
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:03 am

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by Scott Harro » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:23 pm

The date was July 20, 1946 and was the first ever race at Selinsgrove Speedway. It appears that there were 9 cars in attendance. 8 took time trials although only 6 show times. there were 3 three mile elimination races (originally scheduled for 5 miles). the consolation was cancelled and only 6 started the 20 lap (cut from 30) feature.

these are copies of old and weathered documents. also below are pictures from that day of the winner Bill Holland and the 2nd place finisher Red Byron who was NASCAR's first ever Strictly Stock (predecessor to Sprint Cup) champion in 1949. also 3 other photos from that day

drivers in attendance were
#29 Bill Holland
#19 Walt Ader
#63 Bob Cooney
#99 Bob Caronister
#7 Red Byron
#3 Earl Johns
#45 Dutch Culp
#53 Al Fleming
#3L Otis Stine


Image

Image

Image

RACE WINNER BILL HOLLAND
Image[/URL]

2ND PLACE RED BYRON
Image

Image

Image

Image
My OPINIONS are just that and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of anyone or any track I am associated with!

sramoa
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:14 am
Location: Dorog,Hungary
Contact:

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by sramoa » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:46 pm

Thank you very much!It helped me a lot!

I do not know how good this information, but if there had been more than one event(AAA big car) in 22th July.Is it true?

A total of nine events were until 1949.Are these such a good summary do you have?

User avatar
supertc88
Legend
Legend
Posts: 14713
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:14 pm
Location: PA POSSE Country

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by supertc88 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:15 pm

NICE pictures! :thumbright:
Central PA - Home of the PA POSSE and the Best Dirt Track Racin' in America!

SAVE Our Farmland, Forrests and Dirt Tracks!

Freedom Is NOT Free!

RIP Billy Kimmel - Gone but not forgotten!

User avatar
Scott Harro
Head Wrench
Head Wrench
Posts: 1989
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:03 am

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by Scott Harro » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:38 pm

sramoa wrote:Thank you very much!It helped me a lot!

I do not know how good this information, but if there had been more than one event(AAA big car) in 22th July.Is it true?

A total of nine events were until 1949.Are these such a good summary do you have?
all the sanctioned events from the past at Selinsgrove can be found here http://selinsgrovespeedway.com/winlistsanctioned.html most have dates of the event listed. as far as i and another speedway historian can tell this is all of the events. we've done very exhaustive research.

i do not have any records for williams grove.

if you're strictly looking for AAA events WG probably had them near the same dates as selinsgrove(just a guess) Selinsgrove's dates were

7/20/1946 won by Bill Holland
7/26/1947 won by Joie Chitwood
7/25/1948 won by Tommy Hinnershitz

the only other groups to run there in the 40's were Penn-Jersey 6 events from 1946-1949 and the Central States Racing Association 1 event in 1949. those winners can also be found at the link above.
My OPINIONS are just that and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of anyone or any track I am associated with!

High in the first turn
Pit Member
Pit Member
Posts: 767
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:45 pm

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by High in the first turn » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:49 pm

Gordon White has many AAA records. He usually brings his Offy Midget to Latimore Valley for the live events. Not sure if those records may be in the library.

sramoa
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:14 am
Location: Dorog,Hungary
Contact:

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by sramoa » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:14 am

Unfortunately, the White AAA database is missing year 1946 , but there is a list for him.That's why I'm looking for this one event.(And thanks to Selinsgrove event!!!)

LarryJ
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:02 am
Location: Eldersburg, Md

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by LarryJ » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:58 pm

I just checked my files and I have a program for this date with the entries and their qualifying times. It looks like 30 cars took time and 3 or 4 others were there. I will type the info and scan it. It is currently written in cursive and hard to read.

LarryJ
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:02 am
Location: Eldersburg, Md

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by LarryJ » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:33 pm

Here is what the program shows. The stats are by Maryland fan John Fales.

Williams Grove AAA Sweepstakes Race July 7, 1946

These are the cars that took time:

#5 Lee Wallard
#4 Danny Goss
#6 Johnny Shackleford
#16 Hank Rodgers
#61 Earl Johns
#99 Len Koenig
#63 Bob Cooney
#9 Mark Light
#36 Emil Andres
#37 Eddie Zimmerman
#33 Ottis Stine
#7 Red Byron
#44 Lawrence Smith
#8 Tommy Mattson
#7 George Rutty
#33 Billy Devore
#34 Elbert Booker
#3 Ed Terry
#51 Al Baker
#81 Jimmy Gibbons
#3 Fred Carpenter
#25 Ducky Pelham
#31 Jimmy Boss
#99 Bob Chronister
#74 Lucky Lox
#37 Jimmy Brown
#14 Joe Verbely
#7 Chuck McNeil
#32 Scotty Airol
#34 Joe Verbely

Also noted #4 Walt Ader broke piston, #4 Burd Piston Ring Spl. not on track, #5 Horn not on track and #3 Hinnershitz not on track

I am not sure of the spelling of car #32 Scotty's last name.

sramoa
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:14 am
Location: Dorog,Hungary
Contact:

Re: 7th July,1946 Williams Grove

Post by sramoa » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:25 am

Thank you very much Larry!It's Great!

Airol was Scotty Arrell
http://www.1933fordrileyracecar.com/his ... mGrove.JPG

Do you have got results in this event?

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests