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Fine with the non-qualifiers race. But I can't stand scheduled fuel stops. With that in mind, I think 40 laps is the perfect distance. Also, with four provisionals you're already up to 28 cars each Outlaw race anyway. Anymore than that and I think safety starts to become compromised.

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Race Count 2014
Port Royal - 15
Williams Grove - 13
Lincoln - 3
Selinsgrove - 2
Eldora - 1
Path Valley - 1
Grandview - 1

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As an older fan, too bad you guys missed "all of the above" over the course of the National Open (except the $$ figure).

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2014 races : 46

Port Royal 19
Williams Grove 19
Lincoln. 4
Trailway 1
Path Valley 1
Grandveiw 1
Hagerstown 1

You guys all keep saying "Up the purse" yet you are not the ones paying the bills of the track are you? Doesnt help anything that weve had somewhere around 10 or 15 rainouts this year.

I would like to see a higher purse too, but if you get a higher purse where does that money come from? An upped price in GA and Pit Passes, and I dont think anyone here wants to pay more than $35 to get in....

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2013: 56 races at 15 different tracks.

2014 Races: 23

Waynesfield: 5
Eldora: 4
Attica: 2
Wiliams Grove: 3
Lincoln: 1
Kokomo: 1
Volusia: 1
Limaland: 2
Talladega Short Track: 1
Gas City: 1

Chili Bowl Nationals
Aarons 312 Talladega N'wide race
Indianapolis 500

Daytona Speedweeks:
Sprint Unlimited
Rolex 24
Daytona Rising CTSCC 200

Sure they do. The "diehards" would gladly pay more $ to see a race every week. They seem to forget though that the rest of us fans who have families can't afford it and would stay home. Have said it for yrs the "diehard" race fans are hurting this sport more then they are helping.

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2014 race count

Williams Grove-6
Lincoln- 21
Trail Way -15
Port - 1

40 races in 2013
50 races in 2012.
56 races in 2011.

With everything going up except for wages, they had better leave things as is! Unless you live close, just getting to the track is a big expense. The attendance at weekly shows is way down. Like everyday life, racing is completely out of hand. Promoters,fabricators, engine builders, it's time to wake up before racing is just a thing of the past. Making money does have a down side. You get it from someone else's pocket. When the pockets your picking are empty your out of business also.

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Everyone wants a bigger payout and $70,000 sounds great but who will pay in rain treatens 1 night or the weekend???

... hoping the Natls are the same weekend as Reading drags ... (2) Wm. Grove (2) Reading & (1) Selinsgrove ... great 3 day weekend

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Unless the rules are changed and everyone goes to a bigger fuel tank, there is no way around having a fuel stop. That is why I suggest a 50 lapper with a fuel stop at lap 25. As it is now, there is usually only 10-15 laps left after the fuel stop.

I think the purse does need to be increased if you want to be one of the crown jewel big events in the sport. Think about it, over 60 cars show up and over half the feature field on Friday night gets just $600. Really??!! Compare that purse to any of the major super late model shows across the country and it just does not stack up.

2014 Natty Open will remain the same as this years BUT there might be tv coverage as this year on cbs sports depending on contract neg over the winter months between WRG and CBS Sports

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